Scripting News BrunchI just got back from the “Geek Brunch” with Dave Winer of Scripting News. In attendance were:
- Dave Winer, of course (see his thoughts on the brunch)
- Ray Daly of ABCEDmindedness (see Ray's notes)
- David Welker
- Marcus of Kmax Blog Links
- Andy Williams Affleck of Webcrumbs (see Andy's photo of the brunch)
- Lou Josephs of Medianetwork (see quick comments from Lou)
- Roger Strickland of Slapcast.com
- Greg Gershman of Blogdigger (see Greg's notes)
When things are invisible, it's the job of bloggers to make them visible.It's a somewhat utopian notion—that blogs are going to be able to shine a light into the dark corners of society and thereby make a positive difference. Whether it's true or not, it's a worthwhile goal for bloggers to strive toward, it seems to me. Other “invisible” questions we discussed: Why did the media replay the dean scream a million times? On this question the media covered the scream, but didn't cover the fact that it didn't sound insane if you were actually in the room, nor their own role in replaying it again and again, etc. Those questions were overlooked at the time, invisible; they've been considered somewhat since then, but on a comparative basis they're still invisible. Also: Why are Ward Churchill's ideas so repugnant that some people want to throw out the first amendment as far as he's concerned? On this topic all we get from the media are “wow, those are some crazy ideas” and “lots of people are furious and they want Churchill's head.” Why no consideration of the ideas themselves, or the reasons behind the fury? Those questions are invisible. Why don't bloggers raise them? I could go on; with two hours of fast-paced conversation, we covered a lot of ground. Overall the brunch was a great time, featuring excellent conversation, great to meet so many fascinating and talented people. If there's ever a Scripting News meal in your area and you're sort of a tech/blog geek, I highly recommend it. NOTE: This post has been updated to add links to the brunch attendees who commented on the event.
Posted February 6, 2005 02:39 PM | meta-blogging
Your blog is great. Have you ever thought about compiling a list of all the GW law students that blog? Surely, there are a lot of us
Posted by: Anonymous at February 6, 2005 08:46 PM
Sounds like a great brunch!
I'm with you re: Manilla... not that it's not cool, but c'mon... $1100??! :)
I actually love the MT interface, but I like to hack on the blog. I've thought many times about moving to WordPress, but I have so much time invested in MT, it'd be a hard switch to make.
The reason I left Radio, primarily was the slow server, and the lack of updates from UserLand. I think when Dave gave up on the company, they gave up on themselves.
How do you like ecto? I took a look at it a long time ago, but since I multi-platform blog (Mac & Windows) I didn't think it was for me... but I see they have a Windows version now...
And it's *great* to learn about Slapcast! I've wanted to try "podcasting" (which is a silly name) but couldn't justify the hassle. Slapcast sounds mighty interesting.
Thanks for the rundown of the brunch, sounds very worthwhile... Maybe it's time for a Windy City blogger brunch. :)
Posted by: Dave! at February 6, 2005 09:39 PM
GW blogger: Sure, I've thought about compiling a list of GW students who blog. In fact, it's right here. The current list has 11 entries (including this site), but that's not strictly accurate since 3-4 of those blogs are basically dead, one (Life, Law, Libido) is written by GW grads rather than current students, and one is a group blog featuring one GW Prof (Orin Kerr at the Volokh Conspiracy). So hey, if you know of others, I'd love to know about them. If you have a blog and it's not on that list, please share the link.
Posted by: ambimb at February 6, 2005 10:19 PM
Dave! It was a very cool brunch, but now I just want to drop out of law school and learn to code. My first project would be a cross-platform desktop photoblog client that would interface w/MT, WP, Blogger, etc. but would include everything you need to edit, crop, resize, and post a daily photo to a photoblog. I'm sure it would make no money, but my future law paycheck is not looking so good, either so...
But ecto is great, partially b/c it almost does all of the above. In fact, it basically does, it just doesn't do every step all that well. Still, I don't see how people blog by logging in to some web interface all the time. I can't stand that. First, it's a good way to lose posts you've spent time writing (if your browser crashes or whatever), you don't have undo (at least I don't when I'm typing into web text boxes like this), and the interface just seems slow and, well, clunky. Ecto saves me from all that, and it makes posting photos much *much* easier.
Hey, if you try slapcast, let me know. I'd love to hear how it works. The programmer guy seemed very nice and he just wants to make a cool fun thing for people. I'm sure he'd like to make some money on it, but right now he just wants to give people a new way to have some fun. I might give it a try myself...
Posted by: ambimb at February 6, 2005 10:24 PM
Nice summary of the lunch. It was great to meet everyone.
Posted by: Ray Daly at February 6, 2005 11:59 PM
ambimb - thanks for the kind words. You are right, money is never a bad thing, especially as it buys me free time to make more sites like slapcast.com and dodgeit.com
The highlight of the whole brunch for me was when I mentioned dodgeit.com to Greg, and he actually knew what it was!
Posted by: Roger Strickland at February 7, 2005 10:55 AM
" My first project would be a cross-platform desktop photoblog client that would interface w/MT, WP, Blogger, etc."
If you build it, they will come! :) I'd love that app... I don't photoblog yet, because it's a pain. I'm definitely going to give Slapcast a try...
Posted by: -Dave! at February 7, 2005 11:33 AM
Nice meeting you yesterday. If you have any thoughts about Groups or other stuff, please let me know. And excellent writeup of the brunch, I'm going to point to it when I get a chance. I thought the discussion of the role of blogs in journalism/politics was very interesting. I didn't have much to add, as I'm only a developer. ;)
I also like the idea that MT/Wordpress can be abstracted away, and all we should really think about is the web services API's needed for posting, editing, etc. Good stuff.
Posted by: Greg Gershman at February 7, 2005 10:24 PM
Ray, Roger, and Greg: It was great to meet all of you, as well, and thanks for making such cool toys for all of us to play with. May they bring you happiness and some measure of wealth (just don't forget about us lowly users once you've made your first million!).
Posted by: ambimb at February 8, 2005 07:27 AM