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April 22, 2005

Feed me, please

All right kind peeps, I need to ask a small favor. Can you feed me, please? By that I mean: Can you make sure your blog produces an RSS or Atom feed so that lazy yahoos like me can read all our favorite sites in a feed reader (aka, “aggregator)? Whadya say?

If you don't know what I'm talking about with all this ”feed“ business, please see this introduction to RSS. If you use Blogger and you don't know how to create a feed for your blog, here's what you need to do: Go to your ”Settings“ tab and click the ”site feed“ subtab. Say ”yes“ to publish site feed, and make descriptions ”full.“ Click Save Settings and rejoice! You have now fed me and all your other adoring fans!

For those of you using Xanga, well, um, I don't think Xanga will produce feeds b/c it looks like the whole theory of Xanga is to keep people inside of Xanga. (I could be wrong, but that's what it looks like.) So may I suggest something like Feedburner? It should create a feed for you w/out too much trouble.

It would make me most highly pleased if the following blogs had feeds:

I am absolutely certain that this is an incomplete list, so I'll just make a blanket request to anyone who reads this: If you have a blog, please make sure it has a feed. If I haven't looked for a feed on your blog yet, I'm sure someone else has, and if they didn't find one, they were very very sad. Worse, they may have wandered off to other regions of the internets, never to return, because, well, let's face it, some people are like that. So make sure you've got a feed, and all your readers will be fat and happy. Yes?

p.s.: If anyone has more tips or tricks to make it easy for people to make sure their blogs have a feed, please share.

Posted April 22, 2005 11:42 PM | meta-blogging


Hmm, I know that blondie and mr. d.a. and wotl had working feeds quite recently. Maybe they just turned them off or there's something wrong with the feed. You're right about Xanga, though - there's no way to get a feed unless u use feedburner - I don't even know if they can do that unless they upgrade.

Posted by: Three Generations at April 22, 2005 11:10 AM

It's also helpful if you subscribe to your own feed (if you do that kind of thing) so that you can verify your feed is working.

Posted by: ksmqrd at April 22, 2005 11:31 AM

Howdy! Thanks for the FeedBurner plug (I just joined the FB team, in case you hadn't heard).

BTW, for a number of blogspot-hosted blogs, just try tacking on /atom.xml to their blog URL - in many cases you'll get a valid feed for their site.

--Rick

Posted by: Rick Klau at April 22, 2005 11:35 AM

Actually, any of the blogs hosted on Blogspot have an Atom feed... just append atom.xml to the URL:

http://misterda.blogspot.com/atom.xml
http://blondejustice.blogspot.com/atom.xml
http://wonl.blogspot.com/atom.xml
http://womanofthelaw.blogspot.com/atom.xml
http://crimlaw.blogspot.com/atom.xml
http://spycygrl.blogspot.com/atom.xml

If the blog is on MT, you can usually find the feed by adding "index.xml" or "index.rdf" to the URL:

http://www.tonguebutnodoor.net/monica/index.xml

So the only blog on the list that doesn't have a feed is "I'm a PD" (which I also wish had a feed).

I know you knew that... it's just end of the year distractions that made you forget. :)

Posted by: -Dave! at April 22, 2005 11:35 AM

At least three of those blogs you mention do have feeds.

Posted by: stag at April 22, 2005 11:39 AM

Actuall, all of them except "I'm a PD" has a feed. I submitted another comment, but it seems to have vanished... for the Blogspot ones, just append "atom.xml" to the URL. For the MT hosted ones, just append either "index.rdf" or "index.xml" for the feed.

Posted by: -Dave! at April 22, 2005 11:41 AM

Er, all of them except "I'm a PD" _have_ feeds... :)

Posted by: -Dave! at April 22, 2005 11:42 AM

Oh yeah, and you can subscribe to Xanga blogs in Bloglines.

Posted by: stag at April 22, 2005 11:43 AM

I'm a PD has a feed in Bloglines.

Posted by: stag at April 22, 2005 11:45 AM

I think most of those blogs have feeds, if you use bloglines use the "sub bloglines" javascript button when you're on the page and more often than not it subscribes you.

Posted by: Narkoleptik at April 22, 2005 11:46 AM

Whoopsie daisy! I guess I got lazy. I was relying on NewsFire's "autodiscovery" of feeds feature, and for some reason it didn't find any feeds on those sites. You're right -- all those sites have feeds and I'm now happily fed. Sorry about that.

Um, but if "I'm A PD" has a feed available in bloglines, can someone send me the feed URL so I can subscribe?

Posted by: ambimb at April 22, 2005 12:02 PM

Oh, and Dave, your first comment is back now -- it triggered moderation b/c of all the links you included. Thanks for those, though -- I used them to subscribe so you made it easy for me to be lazy. ;-)

Posted by: ambimb at April 22, 2005 12:03 PM

http://www.xanga.com/rss.aspx?user=imapd

Posted by: stag at April 22, 2005 12:15 PM

Autodiscovery usually works by looking for HTML in the page along the lines of

alt rel="alternate" type="application/rss+xml" title="RSS" href="http://mowabb.com/ai/index.rdf"

-- to draw an example from your own site. Some people who have feeds do not have this stuff in their blog templates. Autodiscovery won't work on those pages unless it also searches for ANY links to an .xml or .rdf file, and most autodiscovery routines don't do that (at least not by default) because that way it's too easy to find XML files that aren't feeds. If the site HTML also lacks an ordinary link to a feed file, then it's even harder to find a feed unless you just happen to know that their blog software generates one.

Posted by: Tim Hadley at April 22, 2005 12:32 PM

yeah, i thought i had one. where in my template should i put that autodiscovery thing that you're talking about, Tim?

Posted by: monica at April 22, 2005 03:21 PM

Another request: if you have a feed (yay, step 1 completed) make sure it's set so that article appear in their entirety in the feed. I hate having to click on the blog entry to read the whole article and frequently don't.

Thanks.

Posted by: transmogriflaw at April 22, 2005 05:57 PM

Woohoo! Look how hip and happenin' I am, to have a feed!

No, I don't have any idea what that means or what it does or how it works. Whoot.

Posted by: womanofthelaw at April 22, 2005 07:36 PM

Well, I'm glad we got that taken care of. =)

Posted by: blondie at April 22, 2005 11:37 PM

Stag: Thanks for the link to I'm A PD's feed -- that makes me very happy!

Tim: Thanks for explaining how that autodiscovery thing works. I was wondering why it worked on some sites and not on others...

Monica: I think you can just add a link to your sidebar that simply says "RSS" or "subscribe to this site" and which links to your feed URL. I'm pretty sure my aggregator's autodiscovery feature would find your feed then. It seems to work on my site, and that's all I've done.

Womanofthelaw: Having a feed means you're really really cool, but we knew that already.

Posted by: ambimb at April 23, 2005 09:58 AM

For some of us, ATOM feeds just don't work. (Indeed, some of us prefer RSS because it doesn't try to be ATOM-clever.)

For those of us in that situation, I have a handy little set of instructions on how to convert feeds using Feedburner. It's targeted at people who don't know what a feed is.

Hope that helps you, Ambimb. I've been "whining" about this longer than you have. ;)

Posted by: A. Rickey at April 23, 2005 06:43 PM

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